It's just a shep call buddy, don't sweat. Just smile and nod, smile and nod. Don't act like there's a problem in the world, don't argue, don't disagree about anything. It will all be over in less than an hour. Afterwards the elders will leave you alone for a while, they can say they've made an effort with you and move on.
Captain Obvious
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HELP. ELDERS COMING TO TALK WITH THE FAMILY
by Thoughtless inso after the annual meeting, on sunday, the elders want to talk with my family.
i do not like this one bit.
perhaps i am being exposed.
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Help with a part in the ministry school... teaches TTATT subtly
by ILoveTTATT inmy gf has the part "why are there so many religions".... i need to place some ttatt seeds very subtly... i don't care if they go right above most jw's heads... .
any ideas?.
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Captain Obvious
Yes reference please
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I made a huge mistake
by KariOtt inits been a tough 6 months for my jw hubby and myself.
next saturday is our anniversary.
i wasn't sure we would make it with the turbulance of the last 6 months.
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Captain Obvious
Sounds like a great chance to show him the 'cross' reference in the reasoning book. it references the Imperial Bible Dictionary dishonestly. Here is a link to the real page it claims to quote.
http://archive.org/stream/theimperialbible01unknuoft#page/376/mode/1up
With the entire roman rule being incredibly well documented, it's amazing they've gotten away with saying thT Romans didn't kill people on crosses for this long.
Good luck
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Missionaries to vacate all missionary homes
by seenitall inlatest news from a source (missionary in foreign land):.
no more missionary homes anywhere in the world.. all missionaries presently in missionary homes must vacate.
must get housing on your own / from the locals.. circuit and district overseers have moved into many of these former missionary homes.. reasons: liability, cost savings, real estate to be sold or used for other purposes.. needless to say, many of these longtime servants are very unsettled.
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Captain Obvious
So how do we find out if there is any truth to this?
if it became official, a good question to our JWs would be; 'if we are pulling all of our missionaries out, how can the good news be preached to all the inhabited earth?'
no doubt some will immediately think the great trib is here.. But after that wears off, they'll have to wonder.
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An Elder Reads CoC !!
by TTATTelder ini have recently joined the site.
i was just appointed an elder this summer.
i started discovering the ttatt (the truth about the truth) last year after putting a few things together myself concerning the leadership and then doing some research online.. i really enjoyed jwfacts.com, jwsurvey, and others.
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Captain Obvious
Another hounder sees the light! Congrats. Looking forward to hearing some juicy inside info
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Teenage Jehovah's Witness loses court bid to refuse life-saving blood transfusion
by Sapphy inhttp://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-09-27/jehovahs-witness-loses-bid-to-refuse-blood/4985476.
interesting verdict, that despite the judge "...noting he was highly intelligent, a "mature minor" and devoted to his faith, the judge also found the boy had been "cocooned in that faith" for his entire life.".
the young man is 18 in 5 months and will be able to refuse treatment after that.
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Captain Obvious
Good. Let's hope this is used as case law for years to come.
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Any 'Breaking Bad' fans?
by keyser soze ini finally got caught up with it on netflix, and now it's ending.. predictions for sunday night's finale?
i find myself not really caring what happens to walt.
but i'm definitely rooting for something good to happen to jesse, anything at all..
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Captain Obvious
Walt can't off himself too soon! Remember the foreshadowing from the beginning of the season? He has a while to live yet.
Best. Series. Ever.
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Do you have any "one-liners" for drive-by witnessing?
by Faithful Witness ini am looking for things i can say in passing, when i meet some of my jw friends.
we used to attend meetings, but have not been officially recognized yet, as apostates.
we were good and curious students, but fell away and were choked out by weeds.. since i will be renewing my bible student status soon, i am hoping this will open more windows into the organization.
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Captain Obvious
"Did you know the local indigenous peoples have been here for over 10000 years? Amazing. They recently found a spear head with woolly mammoth blood on it!"
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Musings about different types of atheist!
by Seraphim23 ina thought that occurs to me is that if one has the belief that all that is real is only explicable in terms of particles and forces, and that nothing exists that is not one of these, then good and bad doesnt exist either, the same would be true for any concept for that matter.
or perhaps it is only true when reduced to the level of matter and forces, but without the moral force, meaning and purpose that such a materialist only description would entail.
after all, if death is forever, which is materialist view, then what does it matter if a seventy or seven year old enters the grave?
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Captain Obvious
One day I'll come up with an idea for a thread that has an OP with a pile of flawed arguments and assumptions. All I have to do is completely ignore the fact that my OP has been picked apart and tell the posters that they are ignoring my points.
6 pages in 20 hours... Nice work
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The Lawsuit Landslide: Irwin Zalkin representing ELEVEN child abuse victims against Watchtower
by cedars inmany of you will be interested to know that irwin zalkin now has 11 lawsuits against watchtower at various stages.. these can be summarized as follows.... j.l.
shocked by the lack of action, the victims mother immediately left the congregation with her son.
by this stage campos was a known predator with complaints having been made to the elders at linda vista spanish, playa pacifica spanish and the watchtower dating back to 1982.elizabeth mcfarland ohio a former ministerial servant named scott silvasy sexually molested elizabeth when she was a child through her early teens.
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Captain Obvious
Yes a lot of these cases will hinge on the Conti case... But also as long as the current non-reporting policy is in place, there will be more people coming forward and unfortunately, more children abuse who could have been protected. And for that reason I hope the WT bleeds millions and millions. At least the catholic leadership has shown remorse. The WT leadership updated their instructions to more clearly state that cases should not be reported unless it's local law. They say that child abuse is appalling, but potentially tarnishing the org's name is worse.
Disgusting. But think! Of how many GOOD (read:expensive) lawyers the WT is going to have to retain to fight these cases. What about when they are fighting dozens of cases? They will be crying for more funds for the "Worldwide Preaching Work" (Worldwide Pedophile Protection Fund).
The average Dub upon hearing about this will think its persecution. What we need to help our loved JWs understand is the Watchtower's guilt in all this.